Is this patronising, or am I being too touchy?
We decided to go to a wonderful event in Voor Paardeberg - wine tasting, food tasting, good music from a talented blues band.
We went with friends (who happened to be German) and enjoyed the event and reasonably good weather (compared to what we have been experiencing recently in the Cape!). Given my present condition, I was taking things very easily, and avoiding rolling too far. We found a nice spot beneath the trees, and (as I was the nominated driver), I was brought food, and drink, while the others enjoyed more than a little bit of the wine on offer!! Listening to the Blues band, was great, and everyone was having a good time. I was enjoying dusting some of the rust off my German (and translating for my wife, who does not speak German).
We were then approached by an attractive young lady, who said that she was compelled to speak to us due to her belief in some spiritual entity, who had challenged her to approach us. Hmmm... She admitted that we might have thought her odd too...
Now she made a big mistake; she began speaking to my wife about me...common mistake, but quite annoying; if she wanted to know why I was in a wheelchair, then it would have been more polite to engage with me, rather than talking over me to my wife (the old, "does he take sugar?" mistake). It may sound pedantic on my behalf, but that sort of attitude does not endear me to the person.
Anyway she went on to ask if we had a supernatural entity in our lives (hey ho!, why do they always choose me??). So I responded politely, no, none of that worked for me, thank you. Next question, has anyone ever prayed for me? Yes, actually, they have (as I said I seem to be a target for this behaviour!). So next question, do they have a relationship with a dead palestinian? Odd question, as I would not know, and she would have to ask them, but I pointed out that one of them was a Nun, & as I understood it, many Nuns think that they are married to the same dead palestinian. Apparently I am also mentioned in a family member's church on a regular basis. Next question, how did I feel about this? So I explained that it did nothing for me, as I have no belief in any supernatural entity at all, but if people wanted to pray, then I had nothing against it, I personally think that they are wasting their time, but appreciate the thought, as I understand they think that they are helping in some way. Next question, do I allow them to pray, "just in case"? No, I am certain that they are wasting their time, but if they think that they are doing something, and they feel better by doing so, then I don't have a problem. I think anyone would appreciate another person thinking nice thoughts about them.
Anyway, the outcome was that she thought that she had been compelled to approach us, and that she had been told we were German... (Oh...wait, that got changed to foreign, when she found out that we were not German...hmmm...) Anyway, she asked if she could pray for my recovery (citing all manner of previous successes). No problem. So I ended up having a good looking woman touching my legs (something I would not complain about) as she did 'her thing'. It seemed to take quite some time (maybe the messages she was getting were garbled as I was not German, and my legs don't hurt at all - as there is nothing wrong with them - the problem is in my spine, and if truth be known, my biggest problem at the moment is my shoulders which were very sore), a couple of friends there were quite surprised that I allowed it, as they knew my views. But like I say, if that is what turns other people on, and they are not trying to convert anyone, then it is harmless nonsense. She finished by assuring my wife that I would have a full recovery. Wife smiled and said something like, we hope so, one day. No, the full recovery would definitely happen in the next couple of days we were told. Now, that is the potentially dangerous bit, as for some people it could, unreasonably, raise false expectations. But she meant well, was very polite, and didn't prostelyze so I let it go.
Anyway, it is not everyday that a good looking young female stranger will come up & feel my legs!! As for the rest of it, I am still pretty confident that it is all nonsense. No miracle this morning...in fact feeling pretty sore, as I am overdue my next shoulder injections... But I shall keep an open mind, and certainly report any miracle on here!! Of course my scepticism is fed by the fact that this is not the first time I have been approached in this way, and also it is clear that I have a disability...but there was no approach to any other member of our party, & at least one of them has a more serious condition than mine...but it is not visual...I wonder if that has anything to do with it???
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written by Dissol, November 15, 2009
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written by OS GIKEN, November 16, 2009
I don't know what to think...as YOU don't believe pretty much throws out any chance of God healing you...was she a christian as I'm now a*suming...???
Report your healing dude! :grin
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written by Dissol, November 16, 2009
No cure, no healing, no miracle, pity... :roll No surprise there then?
No supernatural being or dead Palestinians in my life.
Have much more hope in stem cells still. No doubt there is some get out for the supernatural being for not healing me?
It's all pathetic mumbo-jumbo still!
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written by Doolally, November 16, 2009
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written by Dissol, November 16, 2009
My wife was giggling, thinking any minute, my legs would give a huge spastic spasm (which often happens late in the day) & this would have been seen as an important message!
I thought about telling her that nothing below the waist works, & whether she needed to lay her hands elsewhere too??!
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written by Dissol, November 16, 2009
Scotland won a rugby match!!! Now I know that some people will allege that their god will work in mysterious ways, but surely that is pushing it a bit.
No cure yet and the deadline is well up. Wonder what the excuse is this time OS? :grin
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written by Nita, November 18, 2009
If you read in the bible where Jesus healed people, He usually said that their faith has healed them.
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written by Skard, November 18, 2009
LOL about her "calling" to come to you.
As I've said before, your wife is a jewel ...
Lovely to know you, wonderful to have you on this site.
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written by Dissol, November 18, 2009
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written by Nita, November 20, 2009
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written by Dissol, November 20, 2009
Now I thought before that it was all nonsense, and nothing has happened to change my mind. I clearly understand that this sort of belief is popular, but I also think that there is a potentially sinister, dangerous side to all this too. there are many people who are absolutely desperate for a 'cure' and will leap on any possibility, grasping at any straw. If I had firmly believed this girl then I could have experienced some depression or worse, when the promised for absolute certainty of a cure never materialised. Each to his own; this lady was surprised that I have no problem at all if she wanted to pray for me. But care should be taken in making promises about situations like this.
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written by Dissol, November 20, 2009
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